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By Brad Gardner | January 15, 2010

Truck drivers travelling the Newell Highway may face pressure to cut their speed limits because of claims “lawless” truckies are harassing grey nomads.

Mobile home owner Raymond Moore claims the Newell has been turned into an “outlaw zone” filled with B-doubles tearing down the road at speeds of 130km/h.

Moore told ATN truckies are tailgating caravan and mobile home drivers and threatening them if they do not get out of their way.

He says he and other travellers are taking their complaints to the NSW Roads and Traffic Authority (RTA) to urge greater on-road enforcement and for trucks to be restricted to a top speed of 90km/h.

“We’re going to call on the RTA to bring the speed limit of trucks down,” Moore says.

Moore wants the RTA to implement a system similar to the one used by Simon National Carriers, which limits all its trucks to 90km/h to improve safety and efficiency.

The highway’s speed limit was recently cut from 110km/h to 100km/h.

Although a spokesperson for the RTA says the roads department has received some complaints about truck drivers using the highway, there are no plans to reduce the speed limit to 90km/h.

However, the RTA spokesperson says enforcement numbers will be increased during the next three years and regular RTA inspections will continue.

“They are lawless out there. It’s the only way you can describe them,” Moore says of truck drivers.

“The speed these guys are travelling at on the Newell Highway is mind boggling.”

According to Moore, an elderly man was harassed to the point where he refused to get back on the road because he was a “nervous wreck”.

“The truck driver came up and tormented the hell out of him,” Moore says.

“He was there for six days too frightened to move.”

Moore says he has in the past attempted to help truck drivers while on the road and that he grew up in a family that respected the profession.

But since packing up and driving around Australia, Moore says he has lost all respect for them.

“It’s not just me it’s the whole caravan and mobile home community,” he says.

While saying the speed restriction works for his company, Simon National Carriers Managing Director David Simon says applying it to the industry may cause more problems between truckies and motorists.

“Whilst we believe it is good for us, I wouldn’t suggest the whole industry slow down to that speed,” he says.

The chairman of the Australian Caravan Club, Lionel Musell, says there have been issues between travellers and truck drivers for a few years.

But he says the group educates its members to help truck drivers by not getting in their way.

He says trucking safety advocate Rod Hannifey has a done a lot of work to improve relations between both parties.

“He has done a lot of good bringing the two together,” Mussell says.

Rather than calling for speed limits to be cut, the manager of the NSW branch of the Australian Trucking Association (ATA NSW), Jill Lewis, says there should be a focus on educating drivers.

Lewis says she is unaware of significant incidents between truckies and grey nomads on the Newell.

“Most truck drivers are professional and drive to the conditions of the road,” she says.

“I don’t know reducing the speed another 10km/h will make a lot of difference.”

The spokesperson for the RTA says the NSW Government has invested more than $50 million this financial year to improve safety on the Newell, following a $30 million safety investment announced lat year.

“The NSW Government has invested more than $250 million on safety and maintenance upgrades on the Newell in the past five years,” the spokesperson says.

The upgrades include improved signposting, dedicated turning lanes, sealed side roads and safety barriers.


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COMMENTS (12)
Comment by Unknown
posted 7 months ago
I am not a truck driver, and travel the Newell/Mid Western Hwys near West Wyalong, and regularly come across caravans doing 70 to 75. They are hard to past in a late model V8 Commodore let alone in a truck. All cars/caravans and motorhome should have to upgrade to a LR or MR license as their size can be wider and longer than a small truck. This may also give them the skills and confidence they need handle the larger vehicles on our highways.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Rather than reducing the speed limit on the Newell, the NSW and Federal Governments should invest money into new overtaking lanes or dual carriage sections of road with 110km/h speed limits.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I am a motorist and I travel on the Newell every day, at all times of the day and night. As we know, the speed limit is now 100km/h and these "grey nomads" are generally traveling between 75km/h-90km/h. There are two overtaking lanes on the stretch that I travel and, yes, some of them speed up on these or do not pull over to the left to let the following traffic pass.I firmly believe that these "caravaners" should have to undergo specialist training before pulling a van. Some of them would be flat out backing up a box trailer. As I said I am on the highway daily and for the five years I have travelled it I have only seen a couple of "cowboys", but I have seen many near misses caused by grey nomads.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
I own a motorhome. Moore does not speak for me I can tell you. I know for a fact that some of the grey nomads jack-up trucks and other road users in retaliation. No-one is King of the Road. We all have a right to be out there; nomads for pleasure and trucks for work. There lays your answer to the problem. I have a HC licence and have experienced some near misses with idiot motorhome drivers. So 'those, Mr Moore, in glass houses should not thrown stones'. I suspect you are a member of the CMCA. You have the luxury of cruising along and pulling up when you like OR SHOULD. It's called respect. Get your head out of your butt and start thinking - only then start speaking.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Every road user has a right to travel at what speed they like within the law. But surely these so-called grey nomads should have enough brains to pull over occasionally and let the traffic flow. I have come across these people travelling in convoy at around 70km/h which makes it virtualy impossible to get around them.
Further to that, when they come to overtaking lanes they must feel more comfortable and speed up, once again taking away any chance of a fully laden truck being able to get past them. I think the real emphasis should be on these people, not the truck drivers and other motorists. Special endorsement on their licences to tow should be mandatory. These do-gooders and advocates supporting them need to wake up to themselves and understand the real issues here and work with their own people to improve safety.
Twenty five years on the road and I have seen some real hopeless fools out there.
Sure, there are a few truckies that need to brighten their act up also, but the main problem seems to be the whingers themselves.
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Simple, limit the grey nomads to 90km/h. Why do they need to do 100km/h? It's not as if their is a time slot at the parking bay or park that they are going to. And you can tow a 40ft goose neck on a car licence because the pin is not past axle. It is not classed as articulated. Why is it that they do 90km/h on a single lane where you cannot pass and as soon as you get to an overtaking lane they go to around 105 to 110, then when single lane comes up they're straight back to 90. They brake at the bottom of a hill to wipe of all your speed, then they piss off and you are back talking to God, changing gears. And as for the fork head Mr Moore, how does he know the trucks are doing 130km/h? Does he have a legal speed tracking device? And to the grey nomads who use commonsense and drive with courtesy, "we thank you".
Patto
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Mr Raymond Moore sure as hell does not speak for me and how dare he assume that because he and one other person he has met have been given a hard time that it is happening to EVERYONE?
Could it be possible that Raymond Moore is such a p***k of a driver on the roads that he is causing the agro and getting what he deserves?
Comment by Unknown
posted 1 year ago
Having been a truck and car/horse float driver for 30-plus years, I really have to wonder at the comments from the Grey Nomads. I was given many hours instruction in the towing of floats (and driving of trucks), yet many caravan owners holiday only once a year with absolutely no training or instruction in the towing of a trailer of any sort. I have long believed that there should be a mandatory competency test before one can tow any sort of trailer.
P.S. Funny how it is solely the fault of the truckies!
Comment by Unknown
posted 2 years ago
I agree if they did there 100klm's an hour and not slow down when they see you, and the other thing you sit behind these guys they slow down and then you get to an overtaking lane go out to pass them and for some reason the speed up. I do agree they do need some sort of log book.
Comment by Unknown
posted 2 years ago
For years I have written to the relevant authorities and others about this and other issues. Surprise, surprise, apparently it wasn't an issue because I was totally ignored. Well they had better get their heads out of their big fat arses and start doing something because the road toll is only going up from here on. There are cowboys out there, but the industry should not be lumbered with the fallout from a few imbeciles. Those who wish to tow a caravan, gooseneck or drive a large motorhome should be subjected to all the licensing requirements and roadside checks as professional drivers. As for the speed problem, they should not be behind the wheel if they cannot maintain a constant speed. They also have to be taught to keep a proper distance from the other vehicles they are traveling with so as to facilitate safe overtaking by other vehicles. Are they all that scared of getting lost or left behind?
B.A.Noye
Warwick
Comment by Unknown
posted 2 years ago
Holiday makers towing vans and driving motorhomes aren't in a hurry , also 100km is probably too fast to tow a van with . Therefore some registration requirements and education of "caravaners" should be made mandatory,also some not all of the guys out there should be patient around them . Of the mandatory requirements a uhf radio should be fitted to the tow vehicle or motorhome, and some training for drivers of these vehicles . The tow vehicle should also be capable of handling the caravan.As usual the majority of caravaners and truck drivers I have seen about the place work together to get the job done. Often they are on Ch18 and a simple call on the radio to assist to overtake them is all that is needed.
Comment by Unknown
posted 2 years ago
If these "grey nomads" did a consistant 100klm's an hour it would reduce the frustration of all motorists not just truck drivers. They often slow down when they see a truck in the mirror for no real reason. They should have a log book to ensure they are rested and clear in the decision making they make.

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